Showing posts with label DR37. Show all posts
Showing posts with label DR37. Show all posts

2013-05-05

Ignition Coil Trouble

Lesson for today: don't bother with "closeout", "white label" etc. products.

After replacing the ignition coil, I found out the terminals on the part I received from RockAuto are simply too small for the primary coil connectors that are supposed to plug into the coil, even though it's a supposed to be a compatible part. I ordered a Standard Motor Products DR-37, but what they sent was labeled "ProFire UltraPower DR-37".



The difference is down to a 0.4-0.6 mm, but it's enough that the connectors simply won't stay in place. 


Also, the openings for the actual contacts are 1,5 mm wider and shaped differently.


It was a bit of an effort to convince RockAuto that the part really was incorrect. Eventually they agreed to refund the $23 I had paid, even though the part had only a 30 day warranty. So, I have no complaints about their customer service.




Action taken
* Put the original ignition coil back.

Results

* The engine runs much better. I was able to complete a 30+ km test drive without any stalling or choking -- when you're cruising at < 50 mph everything seems mostly fine, but during WOT acceleration there were still a couple of SES flashes and back/misfires.
* Towards the end of the test drive, I had cruise control set to ~55 mph adn there was some weird, repetitive jamming / halting action going on. Is the TCC trying to engage and failing? Or Highway Lean Mode failing?

2013-04-20

Spare part lottery II

Action taken (Apr 12 - 20, 2013)
  • Distributor cleaned, pulled out and cleaned some more
    • A lot of dust, rust etc under the distributor cap
    • Also, there were some mysterious black flakes on the distributor shaft, but they didn't seem metallic. They don't react to a magnet, and break when you crush them with your fingernail.
  • Ignition Control Module (ICM) in the distributor replaced (Standard Motor Products LX340)
  • Ignition Coil replaced (Standard Motor Products DR37)
  • ECM & its PROM chip replaced (original part, ordered from an eBay merchant in California, pulled from a 1992 Camaro, )
    • PROM version is "AXKT", while the original was ANTT. As far as I know, AXKT is just a compatible upgrade.
  • Battery negative terminal connector replaced
    • The threads attaching the cables to the old connector were gone, so this might have caused some contact issues
  • Grounding cable between battery and chassis replaced, contact point in chassis cleaned
    • Grounding cable between battery and engine block was left in place, looks "ok"
  • Battery terminals and connectors cleaned
  • Wires to the Heater / AC blower motor disconnected
  • Wires to the AC compressor disconnected
    • I don't know what condition the AC is in, at best it's very low on refridgerant

Distributor Shaft


Results
I had hoped that blindly replacing most of the ignition-related parts would take care of this problem, but the same symptoms that I had last fall are still there. I think things got a bit more reliable after I fixed the battery contacts and disconnected the heater/AC blower motor, so bad grounding and that worn-out motor were probably at least part of the problem. Still, this only lowered the frequency at which the symptoms occur.

I made a test drive of about 9 km today (5.5 miles), and the car died / SES'd maybe half a dozen times.

Other
Next up, I'm looking at
  • Replacing the distributor Pick-up Coil (since I already have a new spare part)
  • Replacing vacuum hoses
  • Replacing the whole distributor (at about the same cost as all those distributor parts above....)
  • Replacing the grounding cable between battery and engine block
  • Checking / replacing the cable for the VSS (Vehicle Speed Sensor) 
  • Replacing that 8th plug...

And possibly
  • Checking the fuel pump wiring
  • Replacing the TBI injectors

If none of this helps, it looks like I'll have to switch my brain on, do a bit of homework and actually try to diagnose the problem in a structured way.